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Post by yeehaw on May 14, 2006 17:50:10 GMT -6
Hope to go noodling this summer, always wanted to do it, my dad has done it a few times. Hopefully i can get the hang of it while i'm young, and get better in the future.
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Post by Wolfman on May 15, 2006 12:33:52 GMT -6
Just keep in mind there are old noodlers and Bold noodlers but there are'nt any old bold noodlers. Give it time and we can start calling you lefty....lol
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Post by Hoot on May 15, 2006 13:00:07 GMT -6
OK, I GOT A QUESTION. AIN'T IT SORT OF ILLEAGAL TO NOODL? NOT TO MENTION, DANGERIOUS?
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Post by Whiskers on May 15, 2006 13:03:20 GMT -6
Wolfman may be on to something there.lol! You should be pretty careful when you try it.I have seen it done on several occassions but haven't tried it Myself.The very first time I went with them I seen a 40+ flathead about drown a buddy of mine he might like the thrill but I'd rather not be called "Lefty"lol! Good Luck, I know alot of people that love it.
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Post by Whiskers on May 15, 2006 13:08:36 GMT -6
OK, I GOT A QUESTION. AIN'T IT SORT OF ILLEAGAL TO NOODL? NOT TO MENTION, DANGERIOUS? Dangerous Maybe, but it's legal at times in certain water and some states.Missouri has an experimental season on it now in parts of the Mississippi,Fabious,and St. Francis Rivers from June 1st to July 15th with a hand fishing permit.
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Post by yeehaw on May 15, 2006 15:00:50 GMT -6
I don't know about IL, but if it is i'll just take the boat by the IL/MO line, and try it. I just want to try it once. I hear you either like it or you don't, i don't want to be called lefty neither.
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Post by Whiskers on May 15, 2006 15:17:29 GMT -6
I guess it's legal in Illinois but I don't know the details.Ifound this article
Legalizing 'noodling': Mo. OKs fishing with your bare hands COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) — Next summer, it will be legal to plunge into some Missouri rivers and grab catfish by hand — a type of fishing that is not for the faint of heart.
Known variously as noodling or hogging, handfishing has long been a misdemeanor punishable by fines, because state officials fear it depletes breeding-age catfish. It can also be dangerous: Noodlers hold their breath for long periods under water and sometimes come up with fistfuls of agitated snakes or snapping turtles instead of fish.
That does not discourage enthusiasts, who insist there is great sportsmanship in fishing with your bare hands.
So after years of urging by noodlers, and lopsided legislative support for easing up on handfishers, the Missouri Conservation Commission has approved an experimental handfishing season next summer. Forms of handfishing are already legal in 11 states, including neighboring Oklahoma, Arkansas and Illinois.
"It's a start," John Smith, deputy director of the Conservation Department, said Tuesday. "We are moving forward in good faith to answer the legitimate biological concerns that we have, and balance that with the requests for making this process legal."
Missouri's biological concerns are that handfishers, who go for the biggest fish they can wrestle from riverbanks or hollow logs, will take too many sexually mature fish from their underwater nests.
The commission agreed to a June 1-July 15 season, during which handfishers who have bought a $7 permit can use only their bare hands and feet to catch a daily total of five catfish. Fish under 22 inches long must be thrown back.
Handfishing will be legal only along specified stretches of the Fabius, St. Francis and Mississippi rivers.
So secretive are handfishers that they have formed a club called Noodlers Anonymous. A University of Missouri-Columbia professor who got the group's cooperation in surveying its members found that most are men, average age about 40, living in rural areas.
Howard Ramsey of Paris, Mo., president of Noodlers Anonymous, said the season is a "very positive step."
"I hope this is the first step toward a statewide noodling season," Ramsey said. "Noodling is great fun and very satisfying and any lover of fishing should try it."
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Post by yeehaw on May 15, 2006 15:47:37 GMT -6
utoh, that stinks.
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Post by Whiskers on May 15, 2006 15:51:12 GMT -6
Have You looked it up for Il. yet to see what they allow?
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Post by yeehaw on May 15, 2006 15:54:44 GMT -6
no but i'll ask my local conservation officer. He's pretty cool.
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Post by Wolfman on May 15, 2006 21:10:48 GMT -6
Yeehaw, if your idea of fun is sticking your hand back in a dark hole where something nasty with teeth and a bad temper could be laying then noodleing is right up your alley...lol
Lot of my family(dad, uncles ect) used to noodle primarily to eat back when there were very few beavers and no otters. It was a dangerous sport then. I could tell you tales to curl your toes. Even the most active of them pretty well stopped with the resurgance of the beaver population. Now these is rough tough old hill boys, not your run of the mill fisherman now days. Cojones the size of basketballs you might say...lol
They tried many many times to get me started but id heard to many stories, trapped to many beavers and liked my fingers way to much to take up the sport. It's not a matter of if you will lose a finger and get your hands scarred up. It's a matter of how scarred up you want your hands and forearms and how long you want to keep ALL of your fingers. Toss in otters(beavers on speed) and the odds are even better of loseing multiple fingers. Noodleings also about the best way of screwing up a catfish population in a fishery.
Go to a noodleing convention in Oklahoma ect and you can pick the old noodlers out pretty easy. Their the ones missing a finger or two and their hands and forearms are all scarred up. Just think how bad a 10 or 15 lb cat chews your fingers and hand up. Now imagine how a 40,50,60 pound ticked off cat(with larger teeth) could chew up your hand and forearm. That plus then can drown you pretty easy. Now, you wanna go noodleing?...lol
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Post by Hoot on May 15, 2006 21:50:28 GMT -6
I FOUND ONE OF SINKERS WILDLIFE CODE OF MISSOURI,I LOOKED UP ABOUT NOODLING, AND THIS IS WHAT I FOUND. 3 CSR 10-6.511 EXPERIMENTAL CATFISH HAND FISHING SEASON, METHODS, LIMITS 1. AN EXPERIMENTAL SEASON IS ESTABLISHED FOR HARVEST OF CATFISH BY HAND FISHING METHODS IN DESIGNED WATERS OF THE STATE. 2. PERMITS REQUIRED: A HAND FISHING PERMIT IS REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO THE PRESCRIBED FISHING PERMIT, OR EVIDENCE OF EXEMPTION, TO TAKE OR ATTEMPT TO TAKE CATFISH BY HAND. APPLICATIONS FOR THE HAND FISHING PERMIT ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE DEPARTMENT. COST: $7.00. 3. DAILY LIMIT: 5 CHANNEL, BLUE OR FLATHEAD CATFISH, IN THE AGGREGATE, FROM: A) THE FABIUS RIVER SYSTEM FROM THE MOUTH TO THE HIGHWAY 61 BRIDGES AND THE SOUTH FABIUS RIVER IN MARION COUNTY FROM THE HIGHWAY 61 BRIDGE UPSTREAM TO DUNN FORD ACCESS. B) THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER FROM THE MOUTH OF THE FABIUS RIVER UPSTREAM TO THE MOUTH OF THE DES MOINES RIVER. C) THE PART OF THE ST. FRANCIS RIVER WHICH FORMS THEBOUNDARY BETWEEN THE STATES OF ARKANSAS AND MISSOURI. 4. HAND FISHING METHODS: ONLY FEET AND BARE HANDS MAY BE USED WITHOUT THE AID OF HOOKS, SNORKELING OR SCUBA EQUIPMENT, OR OTHER MAN-MADE DEVICES.HAND FISHERS MAY NOT POSSESS FISHING EQUIPMENT EXCEPT A STRINGER, WHILE ON DESIGNATED HAND FISHING WATERS OR ADJACENT BANKS.STRINGERS MAY NOT BE USED AS AN AID FOR TAKING CATFISH, AND MAY NOT BE USED UNTIL THE FISH IS IN POSSESSION AT OR ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE WATER.NATURAL STICKS MAY BE USED TO LOCATE CATFISH, BUT NOT BE USED AS AN AID FOR TAKING CATFISH. CATFISH MAY BE TAKEN BY HAND FISHING ONLY FROM NATURAL OBJECTS OR NATURAL CAVITIES. CATFISH MAY NOT BE TAKEN BY HAND FROM ANY MAN-MADE OBJECT EXCEPT THOSE FELATED TO BONA FIDE CONSTRUCTION SUCH AS BRIDGES, DOCKS, BOAT RAMPS AND ROCK RIP RAP. NO PART OF ANY OBJECT MAY BE DISTURBED OR ALTERED TO FACILITATE HARVEST OF CATFISH. CATFISH TAKEN BY HAND FISHING METHODS MAY NOT POSSESSED OF WATERS CLOSED TO HAND FISHING. 5. SEASON: FROM SUNRISE TO SUNSET, JUNE 1 THROUGH JULY 15. 6. LENGTH LIMITS: ALL FLATHEAD AND BLUE CATFISH LESS THAN TWENTY TWO INCHES (22") IN TOTAL LENGTH MUST BE RETURNED TO THE WATER UNHARMED IMMEDIATELY AFTER BEING CAUGHT. THERE IS NO LENGTH LIMIT ON CHANNEL CATFISH TAKEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS RULE. 7. REPORTING: EVERY HAND FISHER SHALL KEEP AN UP-TO-DATE, ACCURATE RECORD SHOWING THE DATE, WATERS FISHED, LENGTH, WEIGHT,SPECIES AND SEX OF CATFISH CAUGHT OR TAKEN AND OTHER BIOLOGICAL DATA. A NEGATIVE ENTRY RECORD IS REQUIRED FOR FISHING TRIPS IN WHICH NO FISH WERE CAUGHT OR TAKEN. THESE RECORDS WILL BE KEPT ON A FORM FURNISHED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND ARE SUBJECT TO INSPECTION BY AN AUTHORIZED AGENT OF THE DEPARTMENT AT ANY REASONABLE TIME. WITHIN 10 DAYS FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF THE SEASON, HAND FISHERS SHALL SUBMIT THE COMPLETE SEASON RECORD TO THE DEPARTMENT. FAILURE TO SUBMIT AN ACCURATE AND COMPLETE SEASON RECORD SHALL BE SUFFICIENT CAUSE FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO DENY RENEWAL OF THE PERMIT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
(THE SEASON RECORD FORM IS NOT REPRODUCED IN THIS CODE,BUT IS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST FROM THE CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT.)
THIS WAS TAKEN FROM THE WILDLIFE CODE OF MISSOURI, IF YOU WISH TO CHECK FOR YOURSELF, IT IS ON PAGE 63, OF THE MARCH 1,2006 ISSUE.
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Post by Whiskers on May 15, 2006 23:24:29 GMT -6
Yea,i read it in my book but i was too lazy to type all that or go to their website and copy n paste it.lol!Yeehaw lives in Illinois on the Il. Mo. border so I'm not sure what laws apply to him I know noodling is legal over there but i don't know what waters or when they can do it.I will try to look up the Illinois codes later and see if I can find it.
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Post by Wolfman on May 16, 2006 9:53:46 GMT -6
Might look up the local hospital number for him while your at it...lol
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Post by Sinker on May 16, 2006 10:19:36 GMT -6
Bear in mind yeehaw, that ya cain't type too whuppy with yer hands in a cast! We'd miss ya!
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